Pip Hare: Setting sail solo around the world

On November 8th, Pip Hare will start her journey racing around the planet by boat. Non-stop. Solo.

This is the Vendee Globe race.

It’s only open to a very few sailors, and this year only 33 sailors have qualified. Pip is one of them.

In the whole history of the race, only 87 sailors have finished it, and only 6 of them were women.

For Pip, this has been a 29-year journey to get here.

And there is still so much involved to finish the race.

What does it really entail?

What does she worry about?

This is an incredible story you don’t want to miss.

If you’re looking to see where sheer focus and determination will get you, have a listen.

Follow Pip on her journey at her website Pip Hare Ocean Racing or on Instagram @piphareoceanracing.

Bons ventos Pip! Good winds! We are with you.

00:00:07:23 – 00:00:29:17
Philippa White
So the questions are these How can we really activate the best of the private sector to meet the challenges of the real world? Is there a way to accelerate my career that doesn’t involve boring online or classroom courses? And can I really impact people in the developing world with the skills that I have? Can I finally feel proud of what I know?

00:00:30:09 – 00:01:01:07
Philippa White
Those are the questions and this podcast will give you the answers. My name is Philippa White and this is TIE Unearthed. Keep listening and you can follow us on our journey as we show you how we’re connecting the private sector with the social sector to make change. Hello everyone Filipowicz here and welcome to Episode Ten of TIE’s podcast today.

00:01:01:08 – 00:01:21:18
Philippa White
I’m thrilled to be speaking with my friend Pip Hare right before she set sail around the world solo Pip. I’m just so excited to have you with us today, so thank you so much for taking this time in this window that you have before you leave to be here with us today. Thank you.

00:01:22:19 – 00:01:24:18
Pip Hare
Oh, thank you for inviting me. It’s a real pleasure.

00:01:25:01 – 00:01:44:21
Philippa White
Oh, so let let me tell our listeners a little bit more about you. So I met Pip in January of this year in Cape Town. She was the coach for the Angola Cables crew for the Cape to Rio Regatta. And I was there supporting my partner, Guga, who was also sailing the Cape to Rio Regatta with the Brazilian boat, etc..

00:01:45:12 – 00:02:18:18
Philippa White
Now Pip discovered solo sailing Leite at 35 years old, not because she hadn’t sailed before with a 15 year career as a professional skipper behind her, the British skipper has since sailed tens of thousands of miles, including two many transits and one transit. She has slowly nurtured her one day GLOW project until just the right time. Now, in order to build her campaign with the Bondi Globe, she has taken significant personal risk to charter her boat and make her campaign a reality.

00:02:19:02 – 00:02:51:04
Philippa White
Now she obtained the support of the harbor of Poole and other local partners, which allowed her to progress through the early stages of the campaign until she found the title sponsor Medallia. Now Pip knows that she may not rival the boats on foils and multi-million euro budgets, but building this dramatic story of beating the odds to enter and finish this incredible race around the world will be more than enough to make her happy and will undoubtedly capture people’s attention along the way.

00:02:51:05 – 00:03:11:12
Philippa White
Pip, you are an inspiration and I thank you. Now tell us. I mean, I’m inspired and I know everyone who is going to listen to this will feel the same way. But let’s put this into perspective. Tell us, what are you about to embark on? What is the Von D Globe race?

00:03:12:21 – 00:03:45:09
Pip Hare
So the Von Bagley race is it’s a single handed, nonstop race around the world race every four years in 60 foot boats with salaries up to 600 meters square. It’s only open to a very few sailors this year. 33 of us have qualified for entry, and in the whole history of the race, only 87 sailors have ever finished it, and only six of those were women.

00:03:45:21 – 00:03:57:14
Philippa White
That’s extraordinary. And so, I mean, there’s no stops. It’s it’s it’s no where. Stop. And how long does it take around? I mean, obviously it’s sailing, but how how long are you expecting the sto?

00:03:57:14 – 00:04:28:11
Pip Hare
It’s going to take me around three months. I think the very front is least three boats that are 20 years further on in design than my boat. I think they’re aiming to to break 70 days and. Oh, my. But I mean, as a sporting event, if you take the sailing away from it and you consider it as an endurance sporting event, it’s probably one of the toughest on the planet as well, because as athletes, we are required to perform 24 seven for three months.

00:04:28:14 – 00:04:48:06
Pip Hare
And there is you know, some this these incredible statistics. So at some places in the Southern Ocean, you are closer to a person on the entire International Space Station than you are. And central landmass. I mean, your on your your so when you run, you have to deal with every problem. You have to do your strategy. You have to do your risk assessment.

00:04:48:06 – 00:04:54:23
Pip Hare
You have to do your safety. You have to manage your own performance. And it just never, ever stops.

00:04:56:06 – 00:05:15:03
Philippa White
Yeah. And actually, that was that was something that I wanted to ask you. And so you’re sort of touching on that. So let’s let’s I’d love you to to bring that to life a little bit more. I mean, I find sailors extraordinary. And I don’t know if many people listening to this will have thought about just what is needed to know to do a journey like this.

00:05:15:03 – 00:05:32:22
Philippa White
I mean, can you explain really what you need to know to be able to not only I mean, anyone who’s sailing, obviously, Google sailed a lot. And in a group, at least a few people need to know how to do some things. But I mean, you are on your own as well. And so what is it that you need to know to be able to make a journey like this.

00:05:33:19 – 00:06:07:22
Pip Hare
On so levels is not bility. You this combination of of sport as mental problem solving is emotional resilience. I need to be able to strategic play root my boat and I also need to have the physical ability to manhandle a boat that is not has all of this sail area then yeah. Problem solving. How does it work? How do you find how do you repair it and that’s it.

00:06:08:01 – 00:06:12:07
Pip Hare
Problems, electronics, mechanical sail repair.

00:06:12:20 – 00:06:17:15
Philippa White
Building management. Yeah. If you hurt yourself or yourself.

00:06:17:15 – 00:06:44:15
Pip Hare
Absolutely. No. How to self to myself, how to stitch myself up, how to self can relate, you know, to fix things. And then on top of that, there’s just your your operating on a really small amount of sleep all the time too. So I sleep for an average of 30 minutes at a time, minimum of 4 hours a day, sometimes more, sometimes less.

00:06:44:15 – 00:07:06:19
Pip Hare
But you can’t sleep for longer than 30 minutes because the boat is charging along as the environment is changing all the time. So you need to keep waking up to make sure it’s okay. You can never go into that deep sleep phase and yeah, yeah. So it’s just a really huge blend. And on top of that, you just need an emotional resilience and I guess a determination, right?

00:07:07:01 – 00:07:18:14
Philippa White
Yeah. And I mean navigation, for example, from what I understand. I mean, you can’t call on anyone else to help you. I mean, you need to be the one, obviously, who is navigating, but also reading, whether.

00:07:18:24 – 00:07:42:07
Pip Hare
It’s in navigating across an ocean, a massive expanse of water is kind of a bit more abstract then than going from point a to point B. In geography, you’re navigating around all three weather systems to maximize performance and minimize risk. And it’s moving and developing all the time. So you just got to keep looking and keep running these different scenarios.

00:07:42:24 – 00:07:53:07
Pip Hare
And where you go depends on how you’re feeling, how the boat is. You need to do repairs. You try and get ahead of someone. There’s so many questions to answer when you’re deciding where to go.

00:07:53:19 – 00:08:11:02
Philippa White
Exactly. And I think what’s so incredible about sailors as well is, I mean, the the the weather machinery that you might have or the, you know, the the the maps is one thing, but I’m sure do you you must have to follow your gut a lot as well.

00:08:11:10 – 00:08:33:06
Pip Hare
Yeah. And there is in a way, I’m kind of comforted by that. You know, you just you experience matters. It still matters. There isn’t a computer program that can tell you everything and say you’ve still got to look at the clouds. Look at this. Well, look at the barometer. And and just know, you know, if if your computer’s telling you to do something that you really don’t agree with, then, you know, you should.

00:08:33:13 – 00:08:34:23
Pip Hare
You probably go with your gut.

00:08:35:11 – 00:08:55:08
Philippa White
Yeah, exactly. I mean, and that’s. Yeah, exactly. Now, listen, you posted recently and you touched on it a little bit in the intro, but that you the fact that more men have walked on the moon than women have finished the globe, and for you, that’s a really big inspiration. Can you talk about that?

00:08:55:17 – 00:09:17:05
Pip Hare
I think I’m I am driven by. Fine. I guess I guess I’m curious about what I am capable of. You know, I, I view myself as a very normal, average human being. I’m a a 46 year old woman. You know, I don’t know. You would just you wouldn’t give me a second look if you walked past me, you know?

00:09:17:05 – 00:09:38:22
Pip Hare
But I. I want to know what I can do. I want to know what I’m capable of. And and and I’m really drawn to things that seem impossibly hard just to know if I can do them. And so, you know, a race like this is isn’t that crazy? 12 men have walked on the moon, I mean, and six women to finish this race.

00:09:38:22 – 00:09:57:21
Pip Hare
And there’s so many reasons that more women haven’t finished the race. Largely, it’s because to only seven women have started the race. But that tells you something, you know, seven women have started and six of finish. So I guess it’s just for me, I just always up the game and say, well, could I do that? I am I capable?

00:09:57:21 – 00:10:05:01
Pip Hare
Is this possible? And yeah, I mean, I want to know if I could if I could be, say, numbers. I want to know if I could do it.

00:10:05:13 – 00:10:28:13
Philippa White
Amazing. What an inspiration. You posted something the other day that I loved because with Ty, you know, with the work that I do, we were all about putting people in situations that push them out of their comfort zone, challenge them because it’s actually in those moments that you really grow. And you posted that saying you know, it’s at the moments when it’s kind of the toughest that you’ve grown the most.

00:10:29:10 – 00:10:37:16
Philippa White
And I think this is a huge testament to that. And we just sort of taking that to a whole other level. It’s extraordinary.

00:10:37:18 – 00:10:58:12
Pip Hare
Yeah, I think I think one of the things that I love about solo sailing is, you know, when I look at myself, when I’m out on the ocean, I am the best possible version of me. You know, I, I do things that that I don’t necessarily do on the land because I have to, because there is no one else to do it, because you’re forced into it.

00:10:58:12 – 00:11:19:20
Pip Hare
You know, there’s a problem. I’m the only person that’s going to fix that. And sometimes on the lands, we defer to other people through a lack of confidence or or other people take the option away from us because they don’t believe that we’re capable. But in the middle of the ocean, when there is no choice, you do become a I know it.

00:11:20:03 – 00:11:26:23
Pip Hare
You gain more skills, you become more confident. And it’s such a pleasure to be that.

00:11:27:13 – 00:11:48:24
Philippa White
Yeah, it’s interesting because I’m talking a lot about you at the moment because it’s you are you know, I’ve just been so impressed. And when I was talking to my mom, actually, I think it was my mom and I said, yeah, it’s amazing. It’s about to do this. And and she said, Gosh, being on your own for three months, that’s a that’s a long time to be on your own.

00:11:48:24 – 00:12:02:21
Philippa White
And and what tends to come up and I’m sure you hear this all the time, you know, lots of people, I’m sure, ask you, God, why would you you know, there’s a lot of round the world races where you could do it with a team of people. And then there’s that one day globe where you do it on your own.

00:12:03:10 – 00:12:16:01
Philippa White
And I mean, you just touched on it a little bit, but I just wonder if you can maybe elaborate just a bit is what what is the attraction to do something like this on your own versus doing it with?

00:12:16:13 – 00:12:44:12
Pip Hare
And I think because it’s just so hard, it’s it’s really hard. It’s the most challenging way that you could do it. But also, you know, especially coming up through offshore sailing as a woman when I was younger, those opportunities weren’t available to me. You know, you didn’t get to steer the boat. You would never even be asked. And and so maybe, maybe part of the reason I ended up solo sailing was because nobody can tell me I can’t do that job.

00:12:44:22 – 00:12:54:23
Pip Hare
You know, I don’t automatically just end up sitting on the side and making tea and sandwiches, you know, I do that as well. And but I that also.

00:12:55:17 – 00:12:56:04
Philippa White
Connects.

00:12:56:07 – 00:13:26:18
Pip Hare
To and I don’t mind I don’t mind it. But also, you know, I it’s this feeling is extraordinary and especially in this boat now, you know, you are in the middle of an ocean. There’s nobody from miles and miles and miles. And you have this powerful boat straining under the sails underneath you, and you’re surfing a wave. And and you just look around you and you just think, wow, this this is it’s incredible.

00:13:26:18 – 00:13:48:20
Pip Hare
It makes you tingle all over. It’s so exciting. I mean, I just can’t it’s it is my drag. I can’t get enough of it. It’s amazing. And I. I don’t get that same feeling when there’s other people on the boat because I think, you know, you can still feel the boat sailing in that way. But it’s not all it’s not all down to you, you know.

00:13:49:02 – 00:13:54:21
Pip Hare
So I think it’s it’s for me, it’s it’s it’s a more euphoric feeling when I’m on my own.

00:13:55:08 – 00:14:00:15
Philippa White
Yeah. Amazing. What do you think is going to be the biggest challenge this journey for you?

00:14:00:15 – 00:14:18:00
Pip Hare
I mean, the thing that I’m most worried about is just just all of the small failures that could happen along the way, all the things that could break. And it’s being vigilant enough to see the problems before they start. And, you know, I it was a high speed, a really long, hard journey to get to the start line.

00:14:18:00 – 00:14:35:20
Pip Hare
And I have been so focused on getting to the start and then all of a sudden I’m here and now I’m thinking, wow, and I have to get to the finish now too. And then you start thinking about all the things that could break. And we, you know, we’re expecting every component on the boat to break. I’m taking spares for everything.

00:14:36:00 – 00:14:49:23
Pip Hare
You know, I’ve got a plan for everything, but there are so many things that could trip me up. And, you know, my job is to be one step ahead of those all the time. So I think that’s that’s going to be quite a big challenge and that’s probably what I’m most worried about.

00:14:50:06 – 00:15:09:22
Philippa White
Yeah, you touched on just now, actually, and it’s something I haven’t asked you yet, but I do think it’s important for people who are listening to understand, you know, there is a lot that goes into this. So obviously you’ve been preparing for a while and it obviously isn’t just a matter of, oh, here’s my boat and let’s do it on the globe.

00:15:09:22 – 00:15:23:19
Philippa White
So perhaps you can help people understand, you know, the construction of this kind of a project. You know, what is involved. When did you start it? What is the story of the journey, the preparation, the sponsored, the investment? I mean.

00:15:24:06 – 00:15:43:11
Pip Hare
What what’s the I mean, I guess when I really so I dreamed of since I first read about this on the globe and I was like 17 years old. That’s that’s when I decided I was going to do it. But I had no idea how absolutely no idea how it’s it’s not a sport that’s well supported in the UK.

00:15:43:11 – 00:16:03:21
Pip Hare
There’s no development pathway to get there. I didn’t have I lived in the middle of the UK, no sea around me, you know, I just had no access to people that could help me. And I was also incredibly shy. And so I just, I kind of went for years just wanting to do it, but having no idea how to be to start.

00:16:05:07 – 00:16:29:18
Pip Hare
And then in 2009, I kind of decided that this all had to come from within me. It’s kind of if you want to make something happen, then the first step is you open your door in the morning and you walk out and you say, Right, well, I’m going to make this happen. And and so in 2009, I decided I would write my own development plan effectively and I would make my own pathway to get to the one day.

00:16:29:18 – 00:16:56:23
Pip Hare
And I started with a race called The All Star, which was the single handed race across the Atlantic, which I was able to compete in because at the time I was living on a boat and I basically raced my house across the Atlantic. And so and then from then, from there, I just every time I finished one stage, you know, when I finished the All Star, I said, okay, well, I can do this.

00:16:56:23 – 00:17:16:23
Pip Hare
I’ve proved I can do this. So how do I get better? What’s the next step? And that was a class called the Mini Trans-Am, which had 21 foot versions of the boat I have now. And I decided that I would do that. So I sold my home and I, I traded it in for a 21 foot boat and I lived in a van at the time.

00:17:16:23 – 00:17:36:09
Pip Hare
And, and, and then I looked at where the best training was and that was in France. So I moved to France and, and, and so there was a lot about just kind of investigating each time where I should be, what I should do. But then alongside that, you, you know, you’ve got to fund it and this is all done through sponsorship.

00:17:36:09 – 00:18:07:14
Pip Hare
So each time I searched for my own sponsors, I wrote my own proposals on page to people. I did all of my own marketing and PR and just sort of bounced from event to event. And then I ended up finishing the minis. I went into class 40 and this is how, you know, I ended up meeting you. So I was sailing classes for a while, double handed, but was really dissatisfied with, you know, I couldn’t afford to buy a class 40 or run a class 40 myself.

00:18:07:14 – 00:18:31:03
Pip Hare
So I tied in with somebody else’s program and was their sort of pro skipper. But it becomes work then when it’s not your project or your passion, it becomes work. And it’s a work that I loved, but it wasn’t taking me where I wanted to go and and so I sort of then decided that I would try for a one day, but I needed to find a boat.

00:18:31:10 – 00:18:59:18
Pip Hare
And that’s so difficult. So then I decided I would go into the I would try and start in the Imoca class, that it was always very difficult for me because you need such a high level of sponsorship to make a campaign. The range of the campaigns go from half 1000000 to 20 million and, and and I couldn’t understand how how could you pitch to a sponsor if you didn’t have a boat in a project?

00:18:59:18 – 00:19:20:04
Pip Hare
And how could you buy a boat if you didn’t have a sponsor? So I kind of got stuck in this catch 22 and then the opportunity came to charter my boats on a on a monthly fee that I looked at and I thought I could raise that every month. I could just pay that bill every month. All I need to do is just just work hard.

00:19:20:23 – 00:19:42:21
Pip Hare
And so I decided to do it. I took out I took out a loan to cover my first couple of months of charter fee, and then I opened a crowdfund and that was incredible. Like the response to that crowdfund was amazing. These people who I guess it always staggers me how people who don’t really know you are willing to invest.

00:19:43:02 – 00:19:53:19
Philippa White
But it’s inspiring. I mean, to go from this story is incredible. It’s nuts. It’s amazing. Yeah. To make it possible, though.

00:19:53:19 – 00:20:11:19
Pip Hare
And I had and last year was was definitely the toughest year of my life, without a doubt. You know, I had these obligations to meet every month. I had to raise a certain amount of money every month. I was also looking for a high level sponsor on top of that. But then I had to teach myself how to sell this boat.

00:20:11:19 – 00:20:32:08
Pip Hare
I had to maintain it. I had to prepare it for races. I had to do all my marketing and PR. And so I was a one woman team doing the one day. And I would go to events and they would be, you know, I would be lining up against teams that had 20 people in them. And I’m there on my own doing everything.

00:20:33:16 – 00:20:52:05
Pip Hare
But my concept was I just have to keep going if I can keep going because to get into the one day, you, you have to qualify. So you’ve got to finish all these races, you have to have your boat certified. And so I just kind of went through the checklist. I said, Right, I’m going to do this bit next.

00:20:52:05 – 00:21:11:19
Pip Hare
I’m going to do this bit. And every time I takes it off, I thought, Well, I’m becoming more viable for sponsor now. I’m taking the risk away. I’m showing them that I am giving this my all. You know, someone is going to invest in me and I managed to get through the whole year and at the end of the year I gained a place in the one day.

00:21:12:02 – 00:21:38:09
Pip Hare
And and I mean, it was I think it’s probably it’s probably one of the things I’m most proud of is that I got through that year. I mean, don’t get me wrong, I was massively supported by friends and family, not hugely. And I’m complete strangers, you know, people I’d never met before in my life. I would put a message out on Facebook and they would come down from the boat and clean it and take the sales off.

00:21:38:16 – 00:22:02:09
Pip Hare
And then, I mean, wow, these people and they they’re a part of this now. And so, you know, when Medallia came in as title sponsor in the middle of this year, they were able to do that because all of these these people in these small companies that had put money, you know, small amounts in and all of these people effectively were holding me up.

00:22:03:18 – 00:22:12:18
Pip Hare
And they they made it possible for Medallia to talk, to come in and, and take the title sponsorship. And so this really is such.

00:22:13:03 – 00:22:41:10
Philippa White
And such an incredible story of determination and dreaming and just vision and, you know, 17 years old, this is your dream. And look at you. You’re about to go in, what, eight on November the eighth. So it’s you know, and then with the apple, we’re they’re going to be realizing this dream. It’s a huge accomplishment. I mean, because you’re in the middle of this tornado right now and it must be just it’s so full on.

00:22:41:10 – 00:22:48:09
Philippa White
But I do hope that you’ve just stopped for a moment and just taken it and be like, God, you know what?

00:22:49:11 – 00:23:08:01
Pip Hare
I think I win at some point. But but, you know, as you say, it’s just at the moment is still so full on. And I’m and I kind of sometimes I sit I sit there and I you know, today I was standing on the boat and I was looking at the race village, and there were crowds of people all lining up to come down and look at the boats.

00:23:08:01 – 00:23:18:16
Pip Hare
And there’s a video screen with me and my boat on it. And and people are asking you for autographs all the time. And and I’m standing looking around me going.

00:23:19:05 – 00:23:20:08
Philippa White
It’s happening.

00:23:20:08 – 00:23:26:22
Pip Hare
I can’t I almost can’t believe I’m here. It just is so it doesn’t seem like me in a way. I dunno.

00:23:26:22 – 00:23:44:10
Philippa White
Well it’s happening and what I really because the people who are listening to this will want to follow you and I just on in the write up I will put a link but I do know that there’s a way that are you going to be communicating with people when you’re on the boat? Is there you’re you know, you’ve obviously been doing an incredible campaign.

00:23:44:18 – 00:23:57:03
Philippa White
I’ve been following you on Instagram and things like that. But what kind of communication will you have with the outside world when you’re closest to the space station, then to other humans?

00:23:57:03 – 00:24:19:15
Pip Hare
So I am one of my missions is to to share this as much as possible and it’s as much for me as is for it’s for the sport as well, because, you know, it’s not a particularly well known sport worldwide. And I think there is if you take the sailing away, there is a huge human element to this that everyone can connect with and understand.

00:24:19:23 – 00:24:29:21
Pip Hare
So I want to share that human story. So I’ll be sending back videos and photos and blogs and you can find it on social media power, ocean racing and on my website.

00:24:30:01 – 00:24:45:20
Philippa White
Okay, amazing. So I will put the links on the the link on the bio of the podcast, but everyone who’s listened to that is at that too. So that’s good. What we’re going to wrap up in a moment. But before we do, I just want to ask you, is there anything that you can tell our listeners that I.

00:24:45:23 – 00:24:54:12
Philippa White
I don’t know that they might not know or that I haven’t asked you yet? Or is there anything else that you want to say before we we finish?

00:24:54:12 – 00:25:18:03
Pip Hare
And I think I don’t know. I guess I guess just that I really hope that they will follow it and engage with it because the Globe is just the most incredible race there. It’s not just me, all of the competitors, the stories that come out of this race are incredible and I know everyone’s had a really tough year.

00:25:18:03 – 00:25:32:22
Pip Hare
It’s just been my best. But if you you know, if you want some inspiration about, you know, challenging adversity, you know, dealing dealing with isolation, all of that sort of stuff, then, then really just you’ve got a lovely winter of watching the race.

00:25:32:22 – 00:25:52:06
Philippa White
And actually being alive. That’s such a good point because so many people around the world that, you know, this coronavirus pandemic has definitely brought everyone together in a way of a shared experience that has been pretty tough. You know, people have lost people in their families, lost their jobs, lost a lots a lot of things. And there have been so many challenges.

00:25:52:18 – 00:26:13:21
Philippa White
But like you say, you know, in challenge, you know, the obstacle is the way when things are really hard, you know, doors close, but other doors open, there’s, you know, there’s there’s always a way through it. And like you say, gosh, you’re you’re going to be your perfect example of that. So I think that’s a great, great example.

00:26:13:21 – 00:26:42:10
Philippa White
And yeah. Yeah. Well, listen, thank you. Thank you so much for taking your time. I know that it was difficult for us to find this window, but I’m really happy that we did. And just to finish this off, Google wanted to just send you a message. Now, I’ve had to translate this because obviously he wrote it in Portuguese, but he he just wanted to say that I have sailed the Baltic Sea, Britannia, North Atlantic and South Atlantic, not how you’re going to sail.

00:26:42:10 – 00:27:06:23
Philippa White
I only went until 40 latitude in the South Atlantic Ocean, but I would like to say that going that far south is the most beautiful. It has the most strength and the most kindness and the most hostility. It’s in Portuguese punk, which is sort of it’s pretty full on, but it’s beautiful. And it’s a force that reconstructs so that you can meet the sea at the same frequency.

00:27:07:06 – 00:27:15:04
Philippa White
And then he says, strength and all the best, Filipe and I with you. So I just wanted to pass that message on to you. Wow. And thank you.

00:27:15:14 – 00:27:36:03
Philippa White
That’s it, and we are with you. We will be following you very, very, very closely. Sending messages, sending videos just to kind of keep you going. And I can’t wait to connect on the other side when you finish the race. Take care.

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